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EYE FOR AN EYE

Is justice, really a natural law of the nature/world, or, just a human-invented cultural/social/relative/arbitrary concept?

IMHO, it is really a natural law of the nature/world!

For example, it is already well-known that, animals have a basic concept of justice/fairness!
It is also already well-known that, humans have a basic concept of justice/fairness, too, & starting from earliest ages!

Then, what is the basic foundational principle of justice/fairness?

IMHO, the basic foundational principle of justice/fairness, for both animals & humans, is always, actually, "EYE FOR AN EYE"!!!
Which really means, punishment should/must match to crime, always!!!

IMHO, our world have too much crime & always overcrowded prisons, because the foundational principle of justice/fairness is forgotten/destroyed/convoluted!!!

It looks like many people now think, "criminals are not guilty & they do crime because of bad society"!!!
I would like to ask then, which society in history, did not have crime problem because they were all "good" people?
Ancient Greeks, Romans, ...?
What proof/evidence exists for such claim/belief?
IMHO, on the contrary, Roman Empire, for example, lasted really long, because they followed "EYE FOR AN EYE", when it comes to justice system!!!

IMHO, another good example is, how countries of our current world, handle issues between themselves (when/because there is no global court to handle it)!
Notice/realize, whenever one country does anything bad/unfair against another country, the other country responds in kind/equivalent!
(& w/ neither more & neither less, because they know, both would easily lead to escalation of problem, instead of solving it!)

But, what it would really mean, in practical terms, if national justice systems of our world were based on "EYE FOR AN EYE"?
IMHO, it would mean, for starters, all violent criminals should/must be executed (& right after found guilty)!!!
(But, what if, the judge was unfair?
IMHO, all such decisions should/must be made by 3 judges @ the same time & by following majority decision rule!!!)

Also, IMHO, all violent criminals should/must be executed, absolutely regardless of their mental health/state!!!
(IMHO, a violent criminal, who is mentally ill, is actually an even bigger danger to society, NOT LESS!!!)

Also, IMHO, all violent criminals should/must be executed, ONLY by one of these 3 options: Electric Chair, Hanging, Bullet(s)!!! & their bodies should/must be cremated & their ashes should/must be ALWAYS dumped to sewage!!!

(Also, IMHO, simply/quickly executing violent criminals still would be only partial justice (mainly, to guarantee violent criminals cannot harm more victims & taxpayer money is not wasted for providing them free retirement) & if full justice is really wanted then it would require making sure all violent criminals experienced total pain/suffering they caused all their victims, as closely as possible, before they are executed!!!)

(20200405) IMHO, even a criminal justice system based on foundationally/fundamentally/absolutely important principle of
"Punishment (as closely as (practically) possible) Must Match Crime (AKA An Eye For An Eye)" may not always be completely/absolutely adequate, as a crime deterrent/discouragement!

For example, imagine, if only 10% of criminals of a particular crime ever get caught (even w/ law enforcement doing everything (practically) possible), then, those kind of criminals could easily think as/like, "my chances of ever getting caught is (really) low & even then I would only get equivalent punishment"!

So, IMHO, the punishment for any kind of crime, need to get higher, as "never getting caught" percentage gets higher!
So, IMHO, (for example) if only 10% of criminals of a particular crime ever get caught, then, criminals of that particular crime should/must get 100%-10%=90% higher punishment!

What about some people who think, the (foundational/fundamental) justice principle "Punishment Must Match Crime", is uncivilized/barbarism?

First of all, the/that principle cannot be argued to be unjust/unfair, because "equal (counter) response" is like the very definition of what is just(ice)/fair(ness)!
(Which can be (also) easily seen/proven from common views/behaviors of almost all humans & animals alike!)
(Which (also) implies the opposite ("NOT equal (counter) response"), is actually unjust(ice)/unfair(ness)!)

IMHO, what kind of behaviors/actions should/must really be considered uncivilized/barbarism, is actually quite relative/cultural/personal/emotional!
No doubt, just like there are many people who think the/that principle is uncivilized/barbarism/disturbing,
there are also many people who think unjust(ice)/unfair(ness) is actually uncivilized/barbarism/disturbing!

& if so then, which side's relative/cultural/personal/emotional view is the right (or more important) one; who can really tell/decide?

& if so then, how about we (as humanity) do NOT base our justice system(s) on any relative/cultural/personal/emotional view(s)?

& if so then, it should/must be clear/obvious (to any reasonable person) that basing our justice system(s) on the/that principle is really the only solution!

(20200421) Unanimous vote of jury should/must be required (for any trials)?
IMHO, requiring unanimous vote of jury is absolutely wrong & a huge disservice for justice & common good of public/humanity! (& majority rule should/must be used instead, always!)
Because, it is always possible few/minority people of a jury maybe biased, for example!
Like, someone being against death penalty, or, someone who always votes in favor of his/her own race/religion/political side, etc!
Also, just imagine what would happen, if unanimous vote was required for all political elections or referendums, too (if it is a really good/just/fair idea)!? Could anybody ever get elected? Could any important referendum questions/decisions (justly/fairly) decided/settled?
What if, just a single member of a jury is threatened or bought (especially in high profile trials)? Impossible?
What if, a minority percentage of general population is always quite bad at making rational decisions? Impossible?
What if, all congress/senate/parliament/government decisions required unanimous vote?
What if, all Supreme Court decisions required unanimous vote?
So, requiring unanimous vote for decisions, is really a bad idea everywhere/everywhen else, but somehow, it is really a good idea for (a(ny)) (criminal) justice system???
(20200422) Realize that, unanimous vote rule is actually equivalent of minority rule!
Because, minority opinion wins, as long as there is a(ny) minority opinion!
So, asking/insisting for unanimous vote rule is equivalent of saying/claiming "majority rule is unjust/unfair, so we want the opposite"!!!

(20201010) Punishment for criminal(s) should/must be cancelled/waived/reduced, if/when victim(s) declare forgiveness/sympathy?
Absolutely NOT! Because, such criminal justice policy would easily/absolutely lead to abuse/exploitation!
(Imagine a future world that all victims of all crimes constantly/always getting pressured/scared/threatened by criminals and/or their relatives/friends/associates, to declare forgiveness/sympathy! & so, sooner or later, it becomes (almost) impossible to punish any/all criminal(s) for any/all crime(s)! & so feelings of the victim(s) for the criminal(s) should/must be completely/absolutely disregarded for criminal justice process!)

(202110214) I had read a while ago that majority of people of California voted for executing violent criminals but the elected governor was refusing to allow it! (Who, before getting elected, had said that, he would do whatever the public chose!)
So, democracy is good only (as long as) when it suits whatever politicians personally want???

(202111055) IMHO, ruining/destroying lives of people is also just like killing them! & so, if it was up-to-me to decide, I would say that all (professional) pimps (like those who trick/manipulate/force naive girls/women into prostitution!) & (professional) drug-dealers (like those who sell strong overdose-unsafe drugs (cocaine & heroine etc) & rape drugs!) should/must be executed immediately, right after conviction (same as all violent criminals)!!!